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A friend of mine (well, not really a friend...but a guy I've gotten to know from some internet forums for a few years) named Mark Harris has an interesting website called Desperate Comfort  He's a tech head, a writer and a filmmaker.  He also has a keen ability to hone in on specific issues with remarkable clarity.  I was reading his site the other day and i found an article he posted from last year.

 

It's entitled "Do We Just Suck?  Making Better Movies"

 

I found there's a lot to learn there. And I pretty much agree with all of it.  Since most of you are probably tired of my rants about little things like "quality", "diligence" and  "craft", maybe hearing it from another source might be more helpful :-)

 

I've reposted it below with his permission.  But if you get a chance check out his site.  It's very informative.

 

Do We Just Suck? Making Better Movies

So blah blah blah how do we sustain, how do we distribute, blah blah blah. But I’ve come to a realization lately. Well, I’ve come to admit a realization. Many many micro-budget Independent Films just aren’t very good. Maybe if they were better, some of these other problems would be easier to solve. I’ve heard this from many people in the Indie-Film-o-sphere, but usually in blog comments that offer little more than snark.

So I’m going to try to look at the problem and break it down some. We’re always dealing with these things in THE LOST CHILDREN. And be warned, most of the lessons come from Hollywood. Because though they often make really bad choices, they typically know what they’re doing.

What happens next?

What happens next? This is the number one thing we need to strive for. Soap Operas could last decades by effectively posing this one question week after week. How many of us actively focus on this question? Working through post on THE LOST CHILDREN, it’s always, always on my mind. At the end of every scene, at the end of each act, I’m constantly asking: “Will they want to know what happens next?” If that one question isn’t in the air, you are left to founder on ambiguous things like your “voice” as a filmmaker. Which probably isn’t original. Or even worth listening to.

Right now my fiance and I are almost done with Season 3 of Mad Men. Last night we finished an episode that was so good, we had to stay up and watch the next one. We had to know what happened next.

I remember finishing The Wire, Season 1. I got Season 2 in the mail from Netflix. I put it in at about 11PM. I could not stop until the season was done, about 7AM the next morning. I had to know what happened next.

I had the same experience with Buffy. Finished a season, and ran out to Tower at midnight to get the next one. Had to know what happened next.

I know these are all TV shows, but I think the same rules apply to films. The last time I think I had to know what happened next in a film, was No Country, Inception…I can’t remember the last time I felt this with a micro-budget independent film. Primer?

I think there are exceptions to this. I actually found The Watchman movie pretty compelling, though to a large extent it was slow and moody. I felt like the film gave me the same experience the comic had. It allowed me time to ponder the ideas presented. And I think that was part of it structure. Intentional.

But for the most part, I think we really need to be asking: “Will the audience want to know what happens next?”

Characters

This should need no explanation, but it took me so long to learn, I figure others may not get it yet. It’s not about you. It’s not about your vision. It’s not about the filmmaker. Nobody cares about you or what you have to say (which is probably not original or unique anyway). It’s about the characters. They don’t by any means have to be “likable,” but they do have to be compelling. Some of my favorite characters ever are scumbags, or at the very least massively flawed: Walter White. Don Draper. Scorpius. Vic Mackey. Omar Little. When was the last time an indie created characters like this? Are we working hard to create compelling, memorable characters?

Use the Red Letter Media smell test for characters: Ask people to describe your characters without using their looks, clothing, or profession. I’m working on a web series now for next year, and this is probably the single more effective tool in our writers’ toolbox.

Writing and acting

Just like it says. One of the biggest issues with micro-budget film is the belief that just having access to cheap gear means you know what the Hell you are doing. You don’t. And out of all of the things you need to do to make a film, it seems that writing and acting are the ones people think they need the least skill in. Many micro-budget films shoot scripts that are…to say the least, underdeveloped. People think that just because they can type, they can write. They think that just because they have some (probably not original) idea, they should just run out and write it down and make a movie. We often had the same issues at the DVXFests. People would come on the board and say things like: “Script done in 3 days!” yes, your script sucks. And no I don’t even have to read it to know that. Because if you wrote it in 3 days and your name is not Epstein, you didn’t spend enough time on it, and are probably not even aware of which questions you need to be asking. If this is your first micro-budget feature and you have never written a feature before, you should spend at least 1 year on the script. At Least.

I find it painful to watch the acting in many micro-budget films. Often you don’t have access to professional actors to begin with. And on top of that, you may not know how to direct them. Meaning, you haven’t learned the actual, demonstrable skills a director needs to do his/her job. Do you know what an objective is? Do you know what actions are? Can you communicate your needs to an actor in these terms? Do you know how to get an actor to do nothing? Do you know what that means? When you have very experienced professional actors, you can sometimes let them go their own way. Meaning, if you don’t know how to direct, they will still be able to turn in a pretty good performance, because they know how to break down a script, figure out actions, etc. But with inexperienced actors, if you don’t know how to direct, you’re in trouble.

As we work on our film, I am constantly applying this test: I watch a real movie, a Hollywood movie or TV show with professional actors. And then I ask myself: “Does the acting in my movie/scene look like that?” If the answer is “no,”  I know we have a problem. You should always be holding yourself up to the best work you can find and asking: “Is it as good as that?” Always.

Feedback: focus groups

This term I’m sure, causes many an indie to sprout hives and die. But it will save your butt. I encountered this first in the indie film world when Zak Forsman invited me to be a part of a focus group for Heart of Now. I was no stranger to feedback. I had long participated in DVXUser short film competitions. And those generally led to a lot of good feedback from filmmaking peers, mostly on technique. And in the software world, I had led teams and held code reviews. But with Heart of Now, it was the first time I had been invited to an actual focus group for an independent film. I think I was pretty honest with my feedback. I tend to be pretty objective about work, including my own. Zak then screened Heart of Now for about 50 people who weren’t friends, past collaborators or “fans.” And this is critical; showing it to people who don’t know you and have no stake in your success. Absolutely critical.

When we started THE LOST CHILDREN, we made a series of small videos representing parts of the story. You can see them on the film’s site. They are right at the top of the home page in that little rotating carousel. Before embarking on the actual film, we created these and showed them to a focus group. Then we asked them a series of questions. We used that data to alter the script. It’s not about pleasing or pandering to an audience. It’s about trying out your material and seeing if you are even being clear. Do people even understand what you’re talking about? Do they get the points you’re trying to get across? Do they find the characters compelling? Are they with you for the ride?

We are fortunate enough that a small group in LA is putting on a rough cut focus group for us later in the year. And we are doubly lucky in that the audience (hopefully) will be made up of people who don’t know us. We did this in the example I mentioned above too. We asked friends to send us people who don’t know us. People who have no interest in our success, so will hopefully let us know if we just wasted their time. Again, critical to the process, I think.

I encourage everyone to do the same. In fact, I ‘m brainstorming ways to create some safe review processes through NEW BREED.

Let’s all make better movies.

 

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Nice find Jim, every word as true as the shooting day is long.

 

People who want to tell stories and make a living, learn the above lessons at a steady pace.

Those who seek only to fuel their egos by telling people they are filmmakers, and making bad films and

then tryign to talk them into being good never learn the lessons

Because they seek status and attention, not a vent for the crazy shit that's born in their head every moment of their

waking lives.

 

I think the availabliltiy of cheap gear has made it possible for both kinds of "filmmakers" to flood the market.

The cream will rise though, it's the natural way of things.

 

Alot of people are just playing guitar hero, and that's okay.

 

 

Great article, Jim. Thanks for posting it.

 

More than anything else, I think filmmakers (and I mean anyone working in film, from writers to directors to editors and actors) need to treat film as a business. Know your audience, know your craft, and know who is going to buy what you're making. We're all familiar with indie films that were made without knowing those things. Most recently, a film that the filmmaker says is for college age men. I guarantee that if a theater full of college guys was forced to see that film, afterward, they'd take the filmmaker out in the parking lot, beat him senseless, and set him on fire.

 

Haylar, I agree that it's okay for some people to just play guitar hero, but let's call them what they are. Hobbyists. They'll never be Steve Vai.

...and we all know what Ralph Macchio did to Steve Vai in Crossroads (the one without Britney Spears)

 

:-)

 

You are right Karen.  And the first rule of business is that you need to have a product people are willing to BUY.  Not like.  Not enjoy.  Not appreciate.  Buy.

 

I always find it fascinating how people want to get more from filmmaking (or writing, or acting) than they do from their current career (both financially and creatively).  Yet they are unwilling to put in the time, dedication, investment and level of accountability that they do with their current job.  

 

That one has always been a mystery to me.

Steve Vai will always be the Devil's guitarist for me. And even with the odious Ralph Macchio, Crossroads was one hell of a story.

 

Having worked in the arts for my entire adult life, I learned long ago that you have to take the business side seriously. Otherwise, you have an expensive hobby, and a day job.

Hell hounds on your trail boy...HELL HOUNDS ON YOUR TRAIL!!!

Yea! Yea! Yea!   I love what this guy says.  Do you want to know what happens next?   Do you even care?  Or, after the first five minutes do you already know what going to happen and how the film is going to end?  I've got to go pee, do you want some popcorn?

 

Yes.  Extra butter please.

 

But make sure you wash your hands.

Hi, new guy here, at least for now. In 6 months, I'll be the old guy.

 

First some background. Been an Evangelic Christian pastor since 2009. To some, that means doormat. To those who meet me, that means theologically researched and reasonably well grounded version of Stallone, in both the industry and the Bible.

 

When I financed my first film, it was a humanistic coming of age drama about a teenager whose life ambition was to become the next low budget film making wonder. (Vomit bags would have been necessary had I finished it like this.)

 

God intervened. As The Blair Witch Waste of Tape found its way into theaters, shocking some truly *tupid people to the tune of XX million dollars, I was relearning life through the scope of the Word. My film was finished as a tool to preach the gospel. Biggest demographic in the democratic world. Fox agrees with that stat so much they invested hundreds of millions into the subsidiary known as Fox Faith.

 

I spent many years trying to "break in", using humanistic means, failing miserably. When the timing was right, God opened doors, in His timing. Now, I know, especially in such a creative environment, there are many beliefs.

 

I respect others' right not to believe in what I believe in, and I expect others to give me space when I quote the Bible and claim it to be absolute truth in my life. Joshua 24:15 pretty much spells it out. (My experience is that most non Christians know the Bible better than most Christians...)

 

That said, I realized my film making was a decade-long imitation of 'Star Wars' and 'Quantum Leap' plots.

 

I dug deep into the Bible, (learning how to read it it, not as a book, but as a supernatural love letter from God,) and realizing God gave me the gifts I have, I shifted gears.

 

Over time, He forever changed my storytelling. Suddenly, everything I wrote had depth and meaning, not because I was some kind of super poet, but because every plot I conjured found a way to point to Jesus Christ. His Word carries a certain power with it, when done right. The Passion of The Christ was not successful because the director of Braveheart made it. It was successful because Mel Gibson shared his personal pain and how he found Jesus again, his recent hardships notwithstanding. I have nothing but respect and compassion for this man. As for his issues, the Lord will sort them out. I pray for him. Cinematically, he showed us the way.

 

This guided the post production of my first film, recently submitted to the Tulsa International Film Festival after a Jan 2010 Amazon.com release on VOD and DVD. Since the star of my film is considered the most famous athlete ever from Tulsa, I figure I have good chances of being accepted. But, we'll see. In this industry, nothing's a lock.

 

As for the film making process itself...especially here...I won't yet disclose why I'm in Colorado. I get the strongest check from the Lord not to at this time.

 

My future mentor, when I first met him, whose credits I can't disclose here, posed this question after viewing my film."Congratulations. You made a film. Now what? You want to make a bigger one. Are you willing to put in the work?"

 

When I explained the scope and depth of the project I wanted to make, he encouraged me to write the script. I did. His analysis was, "Fantastic. Too big. Novelize it." I did. Now it's being given a serious look by the agents within. Again, we'll see.

 

In the meantime, I realized that online film schools within four year division 1 colleges had matured enough to train a producer-writer-whatever like me, and refine whatever needed refining. Business college awaited so I could learn why I was failing for so many years. I did learn why most successes are a calculated effort, and why film is considered such a gamble, when I Minored in Business.

 

So, armed with multiple points of view of the biz,  grounding in my own faith to know what I believe and why, and enough Amazon product page links to spook most of my college professors, I put in the work and got some A listers attention.

 

I stand at that crossroads now. But one thing I have observed: few, especially here in Colorado, are willing to do the work.

 

Without vision, film making is devoid of any message worth watching. I have heard many arguments against drawing on the Bible as source material, and I remain devoted to my career glorifying Him cinematically.

 

It was tough showing this using my first film, links herein on my personal page. But, after watching some raw footage of 'Star Wars' without music or George's dream team editing it, I was encouraged that my footage could be salvaged.

 

Now, at 29 min, it is a fine example of what could be, given the right resources. That said, either learn the rules of engagement, raise the bar, or as Bobby Moresco said, "If you can be happier doing something else, go do it."

 

It's fun to imagine oneself winning on Oscar night, but for some, that should just be a gag video on Jib-Jab.

Hi Cory, I have just read what you wrote a few months back. I wish there were more active discussions on board here, but that said, I'll do my part.  I'm from the other side of the isle spiritually. I think everything has a soul, from the smallest pebble to the largest galaxy, but my only religion is to say, "Thank You God," to all things, good, bad and ugly. Maybe I’m part Taoist, part Sufi and part Scientist.  If your work carries the message of Jesus forward, and you get your ego out of the way, your work has power, because Jesus has power.  Divine Power,  Higher Power, whatever, infinitely more powerful than anything I say. That Said, you may enjoy reading my post from Friday down at the bottom of this discussion board.  As I say there, I am presently reading and re-reading the book, "Failing Forward," by your fellow pastor, John Maxwell, of the InJoy group.  I love his insights and writing style and I'm trying to put the breath of life, my life, into his printed words.  This time through his book I am reading a chapter a day with my morning coffee at Dozbog Coffee.  After my morning reading, I fill out my daily to do list and schedule and work on my Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Homework, take a walk, practice relaxation and head down to the Workforce Center to sniff out work.. I hope your movie goes well.. Does it have a soul? If it does I suspect things will go well,  gary

Great article !

Like most directors, every project I do is a learning experience.  The key is admitting when something sucks, and either making it better or making it go away.

I did a project back in Chicago that was virtually ruined by one bad actor -(I mean one really baaaad actor -- this guy's audition was decent, but apparently that was all he had) - I think every director out there will agree nothing is more painful and frustrating than trying to wrench good acting out of a non-actor.  I should have let him go, but he was a friend.....yeah, I know...I know...

#1 Hard-Learned Rule of the Trade:  DO NOT cast your friends in your projects. Make them audition along with everyone else,  and don't even consider anyone who does not have a headshot and resume.

And hold CALLBACKS to make sure actors have chemistry with each other, and that the ensemble you've formed works.

Oh, the painful, painful "why, why, why"s I've endured directing theater and film....

And the importance of making your audience want to know what's going to happen next is THE KEY.  Too many times I've assumed the audience should know what's going on in my story because I do.

On one of my recent projects I finally got smart and instead of just assuming my script made sense, I gave it to a friend who works as a script doctor for Miramax, and consequently sliced pages and pages of inconsequential dialogue.

And, I held auditions.  

Great comments Kristine.  There is sort of an assumption that the more people do something, the better they get.  But that's not always true.  You have to recognize that you have room to grow. A ot of people say that about themselves, but then their work never seems to improve.

 

This isn't easy.  Having someone beat the crap out of your work is a painful experience.  But if you are going to take that step, at least make it count.  Listen to what is being said.  Otherwise, don't bother.

Directing ain't easy yet it's always amazing how many people use that title that have little experience in the actual craft. I recently got a gig directing and editing six training pieces for the CDC out of Washington and the scripts are bar none the toughest I've ever seen three pages each of tough technical dialogue that they wanted word for word and oh yes make it sound conversational. They also took the attitude that they knew how to schedule the shoot and gave me 8 hours to shoot 6 pieces in 5 locations that was a challenge but we got it done. The actors were the biggest problem I went to a local casting agency and gave them the scripts four days before the shoot and overstated the fact that I knew how tough this was going to be and I needed the actors "off book" and I was assured they would be...I didn't believe it so I made cue cards for all the scripts. My thirty years of acting and understanding reality saved my ass I read these things over and over and knew that 99% of the actors in Denver wouldn't understand the scope of what they were getting involved in. Of the 12 actors that were paid a fair wage (actually damn good for Denver $100.00 an hour for 2 hours shooting less than a 4 hour commitment) 9 of them sucked and it was obvious they had little to no camera time. Looking at camera stopping and starting without their cue not waiting for a cut and as each take went by I would have to check with the client, who flew in from Washington DC, about pronunciation for each take then communicate to the actor and re-do it while watching the clock. That's the reality of directing and of acting these actors didn't do their homework and they crumbled literally I had to line read them through the scene because each time they screwed up they became more tense to the point of tears. I knew if I pushed them they would just collapse so I gave them emotional support and at-a-boys while in my head I wanted to strangle them. I was seeing in my head how I would cut this thing together and it wasn't going to be pretty and all the while the clock just keeps ticking away with the paying client watching over your shoulder. The reality of being paid to direct is that many things are out of your control the client and location time script, it's there baby not yours, and the talent people tell you things that turn out to be how shall I say "different" on set than on the phone that's showbiz baby you just have to learn to roll with it but that's a skill you learn or you get the hell out of the business. Two of the actors who worked with me quit acting because of this shoot they thought all shoots are fun and I just have to act. They got on set and hadn't memorized the script, hell probably read it on the way to the shoot, thought they could BS their way through it got there and saw clients with headphones listening to their every word watching their every move on a monitor and every class they took every skill they thought they knew flew right out the window. This is the "business" end of show where the metal meets the meat and it ain't pretty the preparation for directing in such a tense environment takes years for the director and the actor to accomplish and make it look easy that's where people who don't understand the process get into trouble. People who make it look easy put in tremendous effort because they know how tense the set will be they know that's not the place to make things up or BS your way through it and those that don't get in these situations and implode. Good acting is hard, good directing even harder all I know now is I have some good skills that have to be refined and challenged often and that means you fail but you don't have time to dwell on it because you've got the next shot to get off. On a positive note the client was ecstatic over the finished project they loved it every one of the actors who saw them said the same thing..."that's not going on my reel".

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