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A friend of mine (well, not really a friend...but a guy I've gotten to know from some internet forums for a few years) named Mark Harris has an interesting website called Desperate Comfort  He's a tech head, a writer and a filmmaker.  He also has a keen ability to hone in on specific issues with remarkable clarity.  I was reading his site the other day and i found an article he posted from last year.

 

It's entitled "Do We Just Suck?  Making Better Movies"

 

I found there's a lot to learn there. And I pretty much agree with all of it.  Since most of you are probably tired of my rants about little things like "quality", "diligence" and  "craft", maybe hearing it from another source might be more helpful :-)

 

I've reposted it below with his permission.  But if you get a chance check out his site.  It's very informative.

 

Do We Just Suck? Making Better Movies

So blah blah blah how do we sustain, how do we distribute, blah blah blah. But I’ve come to a realization lately. Well, I’ve come to admit a realization. Many many micro-budget Independent Films just aren’t very good. Maybe if they were better, some of these other problems would be easier to solve. I’ve heard this from many people in the Indie-Film-o-sphere, but usually in blog comments that offer little more than snark.

So I’m going to try to look at the problem and break it down some. We’re always dealing with these things in THE LOST CHILDREN. And be warned, most of the lessons come from Hollywood. Because though they often make really bad choices, they typically know what they’re doing.

What happens next?

What happens next? This is the number one thing we need to strive for. Soap Operas could last decades by effectively posing this one question week after week. How many of us actively focus on this question? Working through post on THE LOST CHILDREN, it’s always, always on my mind. At the end of every scene, at the end of each act, I’m constantly asking: “Will they want to know what happens next?” If that one question isn’t in the air, you are left to founder on ambiguous things like your “voice” as a filmmaker. Which probably isn’t original. Or even worth listening to.

Right now my fiance and I are almost done with Season 3 of Mad Men. Last night we finished an episode that was so good, we had to stay up and watch the next one. We had to know what happened next.

I remember finishing The Wire, Season 1. I got Season 2 in the mail from Netflix. I put it in at about 11PM. I could not stop until the season was done, about 7AM the next morning. I had to know what happened next.

I had the same experience with Buffy. Finished a season, and ran out to Tower at midnight to get the next one. Had to know what happened next.

I know these are all TV shows, but I think the same rules apply to films. The last time I think I had to know what happened next in a film, was No Country, Inception…I can’t remember the last time I felt this with a micro-budget independent film. Primer?

I think there are exceptions to this. I actually found The Watchman movie pretty compelling, though to a large extent it was slow and moody. I felt like the film gave me the same experience the comic had. It allowed me time to ponder the ideas presented. And I think that was part of it structure. Intentional.

But for the most part, I think we really need to be asking: “Will the audience want to know what happens next?”

Characters

This should need no explanation, but it took me so long to learn, I figure others may not get it yet. It’s not about you. It’s not about your vision. It’s not about the filmmaker. Nobody cares about you or what you have to say (which is probably not original or unique anyway). It’s about the characters. They don’t by any means have to be “likable,” but they do have to be compelling. Some of my favorite characters ever are scumbags, or at the very least massively flawed: Walter White. Don Draper. Scorpius. Vic Mackey. Omar Little. When was the last time an indie created characters like this? Are we working hard to create compelling, memorable characters?

Use the Red Letter Media smell test for characters: Ask people to describe your characters without using their looks, clothing, or profession. I’m working on a web series now for next year, and this is probably the single more effective tool in our writers’ toolbox.

Writing and acting

Just like it says. One of the biggest issues with micro-budget film is the belief that just having access to cheap gear means you know what the Hell you are doing. You don’t. And out of all of the things you need to do to make a film, it seems that writing and acting are the ones people think they need the least skill in. Many micro-budget films shoot scripts that are…to say the least, underdeveloped. People think that just because they can type, they can write. They think that just because they have some (probably not original) idea, they should just run out and write it down and make a movie. We often had the same issues at the DVXFests. People would come on the board and say things like: “Script done in 3 days!” yes, your script sucks. And no I don’t even have to read it to know that. Because if you wrote it in 3 days and your name is not Epstein, you didn’t spend enough time on it, and are probably not even aware of which questions you need to be asking. If this is your first micro-budget feature and you have never written a feature before, you should spend at least 1 year on the script. At Least.

I find it painful to watch the acting in many micro-budget films. Often you don’t have access to professional actors to begin with. And on top of that, you may not know how to direct them. Meaning, you haven’t learned the actual, demonstrable skills a director needs to do his/her job. Do you know what an objective is? Do you know what actions are? Can you communicate your needs to an actor in these terms? Do you know how to get an actor to do nothing? Do you know what that means? When you have very experienced professional actors, you can sometimes let them go their own way. Meaning, if you don’t know how to direct, they will still be able to turn in a pretty good performance, because they know how to break down a script, figure out actions, etc. But with inexperienced actors, if you don’t know how to direct, you’re in trouble.

As we work on our film, I am constantly applying this test: I watch a real movie, a Hollywood movie or TV show with professional actors. And then I ask myself: “Does the acting in my movie/scene look like that?” If the answer is “no,”  I know we have a problem. You should always be holding yourself up to the best work you can find and asking: “Is it as good as that?” Always.

Feedback: focus groups

This term I’m sure, causes many an indie to sprout hives and die. But it will save your butt. I encountered this first in the indie film world when Zak Forsman invited me to be a part of a focus group for Heart of Now. I was no stranger to feedback. I had long participated in DVXUser short film competitions. And those generally led to a lot of good feedback from filmmaking peers, mostly on technique. And in the software world, I had led teams and held code reviews. But with Heart of Now, it was the first time I had been invited to an actual focus group for an independent film. I think I was pretty honest with my feedback. I tend to be pretty objective about work, including my own. Zak then screened Heart of Now for about 50 people who weren’t friends, past collaborators or “fans.” And this is critical; showing it to people who don’t know you and have no stake in your success. Absolutely critical.

When we started THE LOST CHILDREN, we made a series of small videos representing parts of the story. You can see them on the film’s site. They are right at the top of the home page in that little rotating carousel. Before embarking on the actual film, we created these and showed them to a focus group. Then we asked them a series of questions. We used that data to alter the script. It’s not about pleasing or pandering to an audience. It’s about trying out your material and seeing if you are even being clear. Do people even understand what you’re talking about? Do they get the points you’re trying to get across? Do they find the characters compelling? Are they with you for the ride?

We are fortunate enough that a small group in LA is putting on a rough cut focus group for us later in the year. And we are doubly lucky in that the audience (hopefully) will be made up of people who don’t know us. We did this in the example I mentioned above too. We asked friends to send us people who don’t know us. People who have no interest in our success, so will hopefully let us know if we just wasted their time. Again, critical to the process, I think.

I encourage everyone to do the same. In fact, I ‘m brainstorming ways to create some safe review processes through NEW BREED.

Let’s all make better movies.

 

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Wow Mark.  Thanks for sharing that story.  I don't envy you that gig.

 

Most of the people who call themselves directors (especially in the indie world) tend to gravitate towards a single aspect of the job.  They might like working with actors, or have a strong visual opinion.  Most of them could not handle what you described.  A director needs to know how to do nearly EVERYTHING to some degree, and be able to execute it with one eye on the clock, one one the checkbook, and one on the creative outcome.  (No that's not a typo, you need three eyes)  You need to make snap decisions, know when to listen, when to defer and when to over-ride.  most of all you need to know how to give credit, but take responsibility.

Yikes! I think a lot of people would've just thrown up their hands and not cared about what happens. But it's a true professional who REALLY cares about what their name is attached to, and gives 100% to make sure that project comes out fantastic.

 

I'm going to come at this from an actor's standpoint. I know exactly what you mean when you said 99% of Denver actors wouldn't have known what they were getting into. While I don't think it's quite that high, I am well aware of the experience and working ethic that Denver's on-screen talent may (or may not) possess. I try not to say too much, because I *do* want to actually work in this town again! But time and time again, I am absolutely amazed at the unprofessionalism I see. Anything from knowing your lines to listening to the director...ridiculous.

 

I do not need to be "fluffed" on stage or set. If I'm doing something wrong or different than the way the director would like, I hope to God they tell me right away, so we can stop wasting time and get on with the scene the way it was envisioned. I don't need my ego stroked. I *do* like to be told if I'm doing something they particularly like, so I'm aware of it. Good directors do all of this--and good actors take everything given to them, and use it to become better actors.

 

And you know what? Every bit of it is fun to me. Even after 14 hours on set, everyone's tired, some people are cranky, some (maybe me) just can't seem to get the rigtht word or emotion and we have to do several takes... whatever. It's still bloody FUN, and that's why I'm making a career of doing the thing I'm most passionate about.

 

Now I just wish the amateurs would get outta my way and not pretend to be able to do professional gigs.

You make a good point perhaps 99% is a bit high :) It's been my experience that many actors who wish to work in front of camera don't get enough opportunity to feel the pressure of a professional set. That's not taking a shot at independent film it simply is a different environment that many times is more relaxed than a full working set you have a more familiar relationship with the entire cast and crew and you're working toward a goal where you're all on the same level in many cases. I've been acting since...well...a long time in pretty much every situation but it was my behind the camera experiences that truly helped my camera performance understanding camera, lights audio and most importantly editing really gave me an overall picture of what an actor needs to bring technically to a set as well as the preparation of character and emotion. I agree it is fun and it has been or none of us would put ourselves through the chaos that is the life of a performer that's got to be the glue that holds one together as we journey on the joy and love of what we do and the true wonder that we always have something to learn.

Great article, and I like what all the commenters are saying, as well.I don't feel I can add any more to the discussion. I've been in front of the camera until recently, and now I'm just learning that part of the film. (Well, I'm still learning the acting part, too--hope to never STOP learning!)

 

I'm checking out Mark's site now!

Thanks Jim, lots of good food for thought in the above article.

If I am writing something, anything, say a line of humor or a forum reply, I’m not happy with it until I hear it "hum’." Likewise, if I am creating a sculpture out of a block of clay with expectations of a sale, I’m not happy with it until I hear it "hum’."

But if I hum that tune to only my own ears without any feedback, it’s easy for me to fall prey to self delusion.  Last fall I spent two weeks in a mental hospital and that was a great, great lesson on the consequences of self delusion. Brilliant, but out of bounds!!!.

Some of what sounds and looks good to my eyes and ears, does sound and look good to others, some doesn’t. My hospital experience was humbling but it was also a great experience with multiple trials.

There is a book called, "Failing Forward," by John Maxwell I am presently reading and re-reading.  The book stresses how life is a feedback box; how a specific failure is but a stepping stone to success for one person, yet for another; the same failure is a giant albatross around that person’s neck. I love to rewrite. Occasionally I kill a poem that way, but mostly, what I write at first, though it sounds good at the time, also fails the test of time.  By rewriting, I get to use that failure as a stepping stone to an end result that is really good. The way I see it, this reaction to “failure” thing may lay at the heart of why some people eagerly rewrite and seek out feedback to their film or video project. These people use the art of re-writing and the art of listening to feedback as stepping stones, something to bring a “glow” or a “hum” to their work. It would flow then, that the other group of people who fear failure, also shy away from rewriting and feedback and end up wondering why they are doomed to never be a success. Kind of like, “Suck it up or the world Sucks!” or, why “The fear of failure breads failure!’

Too often in my life I have let failure be an albatross around my neck.  In my case, learning to say, “Thank You God,” to all things, both good and bad, has brought a new and different walk to my life. When I say, “Thank You God,” to the bad things that have happened in my life, the feedback I get is that there is a silver lining to most of these storm clouds and I get to ride it like a rainbow. I can’t rewrite the past, but I get to rewrite the future.  

The #1 problem in this arena is when someone insists upon directing a film, even though they've never worked on a film before - at all.

 

See tip #2 in my film production services tips

 

Really, a director should be the MOST experienced crew member, not the least. This even happens with $100 million movies like Mystery Men.

 

-Erich Toll

writer/director

 

 

Hey Erich.  I completely agree that most people jump into the director's chair too quickly.  I know that I did.  But I also never want to the be the most experienced person on the set when I am directing.  I want to surround myself with people who know more than I do to help me achieve my vision. EDIT: (and actually LISTEN to them).   I think that it's a balance.

 

If the director has to be the most experienced crew member, then there's not very many directors that I can work with!

 

But then I happen to think that a good Director of Photography/crew can help a less experienced director look really good. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. If your director is the "weak link", it's up to the rest of the team to help in any way that they can. It's all about making the best movie that you can with what you have to work with.

 

 

I appreciate you reposting this.  But on the topic of focus groups, I'm with Malcolm Gladwell.  Feedback is awesome, but I doubt that many people know what's wrong or right.  And if they did, it's doubtful that they know how to say it.  But I do think one should take all of the feedback one can get.  Not being clear about something is an important mistake to fix.

 

What's been helpful in my (very limited) experience is analyzing past mistakes, at least considering a three-act structure, general movie analysis, an open mind, and the feedback of honest friends who you honestly think are creatively sound.

 

Everyone may disagree, but I heartily subscribe to Sturgeon's Law that 90% of everything is crap.  There are a lot of really, really unwatchable micro-budget indies out there, but "we" don't necessarily suck.  The suckiness of a genre is only a showcase topic if it doesn't have any cred.  

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